Originally Posted by 222

Yes they are the older ones that Camo fire did a fire sale on them at a cheap price. They will kill Deer, Elk, or whatever critter you choose but don't shoot them in the shoulder. ha ha. If that head was put throught the vitals, it would have done just fine and killed it deader than dead. The new one will hold up and be much more durable. The new design is for just that, Durability. We didn't realize that people like to test them in shoulders, lumber and concrete walls. We thought that people would want to shoot them in "good" places to kill animals. Once we realized that the above items were in high demand we created the head that would hold up to them.