1/4" Lafonds Lightning 2 ? -

shep · 04-16-2011, 08:43 PM

Got this along with some other heads recently and it doesn't seem to fit what is listed in the books. In the Master List the smallest thing listed is a 9/32 (.281") and in the Broadhead ID book the smallest one shown is a Lightning with a ferrule that measures .267".

The head in the picture has a ferrule that measures .259" inside. Compared to the 9/32 head listed on the Master List the size difference between two is almost equal to the difference betweem 5/16" and 11/32"

Anyone else have one that would pass as a 1/4" Lafonds Lightning 2

The small LaFonds and a 11/32 Lightning

bowhunterfrompast · 04-16-2011, 09:44 PM

Shep....interesting.

I have a Lightning 2 with a ferrule that measures .267", L 2.03", 98 gr., that was in Joe's collection. I have to pull the digital calipers all the way out to the very edge, almost completely out, of the ferrule or I will get a reading of .260" just a tad farther inside the ferrule.

shep · 04-16-2011, 09:52 PM

How are ya Rick

The one in the pic is 2.04"L, 1.01"W, .259" ID, .298" OD and a .037" thick blade

bowhunterfrompast · 04-16-2011, 10:03 PM

Hmmmm......this one is 1.00" W, .309" OD, .040" thick blade.

Now you've done it, everyone is going to pull heads out and start measuring

shep · 04-16-2011, 10:34 PM

Today was perfect for just that. Cool and rainy all day here in Maryland. The boys were busy on the Playstation and mama was watching the Planet of the Apes marathon

sadiejane · 04-18-2011, 06:55 AM

? about the master list. is it just that? a list? any photos?
so much to learn about old broadheads...
thanks

shep · 04-18-2011, 07:27 AM

The Master List is just a list. Layed out with Microsoft Excel I believe.

Listed for each broadhead is

ABCC# / T / M / #of blades / Const / Ferr / Size / Grains / Manufacturer / Yr. / Desc.

The "T" stands for # of traders and the "M" the head is in your collection

For pictures you will need "The Best of Broadheads" books thru the ABCC, "The Patent and Advertisment Book", one of the on-line albums like the one Bowhunterfrompast has or one of the Wade Phillips books.

Shep

tonychinn · 04-20-2011, 09:22 PM

I got my e-mail that my membership package has been sent.
Tony

sadiejane · 04-26-2011, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shep

The Master List is just a list. Layed out with Microsoft Excel I believe.

Listed for each broadhead is

ABCC# / T / M / #of blades / Const / Ferr / Size / Grains / Manufacturer / Yr. / Desc.

The "T" stands for # of traders and the "M" the head is in your collection

For pictures you will need "The Best of Broadheads" books thru the ABCC, "The Patent and Advertisment Book", one of the on-line albums like the one Bowhunterfrompast has or one of the Wade Phillips books.

Shep

cool, thanks shep!
joining the abcc is one the top o my list
of course some of those books are too.
man, i'd love to get my paws on wade phillips books but too rich for me at present..

Wade Phillips · 05-08-2011, 10:06 PM

Shep -

Judging from the photograph you posted, your supposed 1/4" ID ferrule LaFond's appears to have a ferrule hole that is not really round but rather oval or irregular particularly on the bottom portion.

This may of course just appear to me as an optical illusion and your small head may be perfectly round.

The irregular or oval shape would of course reduce the ID measurement in one direction.

I believe if you read the ABCC Broadhead Master List Guidelines you will discover that heads with oval shaped ferrule holes are not eligible for a separate entry.

shep · 05-09-2011, 06:38 AM

Here is a pic of 3 of those "not really round" LaFonds. On the left is a 11/32" and a 5/16" ferr. They all measure under .260.

04-16-2011, 08:43 PM	#1 (permalink)
shep 100gr Join Date: May 2010 Location: Fallston, Maryland Posts: 286	1/4" Lafonds Lightning 2 ? Got this along with some other heads recently and it doesn't seem to fit what is listed in the books. In the Master List the smallest thing listed is a 9/32 (.281") and in the Broadhead ID book the smallest one shown is a Lightning with a ferrule that measures .267". The head in the picture has a ferrule that measures .259" inside. Compared to the 9/32 head listed on the Master List the size difference between two is almost equal to the difference betweem 5/16" and 11/32" Anyone else have one that would pass as a 1/4" Lafonds Lightning 2 The small LaFonds and a 11/32 Lightning

04-16-2011, 09:44 PM	#2 (permalink)
bowhunterfrompast 130gr Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Missouri Posts: 498	Shep....interesting. I have a Lightning 2 with a ferrule that measures .267", L 2.03", 98 gr., that was in Joe's collection. I have to pull the digital calipers all the way out to the very edge, almost completely out, of the ferrule or I will get a reading of .260" just a tad farther inside the ferrule. Last edited by bowhunterfrompast; 08-26-2011 at 03:31 PM. Reason: revised info

05-08-2011, 10:06 PM	#10 (permalink)
Wade Phillips 85gr Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 49	Shep - Judging from the photograph you posted, your supposed 1/4" ID ferrule LaFond's appears to have a ferrule hole that is not really round but rather oval or irregular particularly on the bottom portion. This may of course just appear to me as an optical illusion and your small head may be perfectly round. The irregular or oval shape would of course reduce the ID measurement in one direction. I believe if you read the ABCC Broadhead Master List Guidelines you will discover that heads with oval shaped ferrule holes are not eligible for a separate entry. Last edited by Wade Phillips; 05-09-2011 at 05:00 AM.

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04-16-2011, 09:52 PM	#3 (permalink)
shep 100gr Join Date: May 2010 Location: Fallston, Maryland Posts: 286	How are ya Rick The one in the pic is 2.04"L, 1.01"W, .259" ID, .298" OD and a .037" thick blade

04-16-2011, 10:03 PM	#4 (permalink)
bowhunterfrompast 130gr Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Missouri Posts: 498	Hmmmm......this one is 1.00" W, .309" OD, .040" thick blade. Now you've done it, everyone is going to pull heads out and start measuring

04-16-2011, 10:34 PM	#5 (permalink)
shep 100gr Join Date: May 2010 Location: Fallston, Maryland Posts: 286	Today was perfect for just that. Cool and rainy all day here in Maryland. The boys were busy on the Playstation and mama was watching the Planet of the Apes marathon

04-18-2011, 06:55 AM	#6 (permalink)
sadiejane 75gr Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 25	? about the master list. is it just that? a list? any photos? so much to learn about old broadheads... thanks

04-18-2011, 07:27 AM	#7 (permalink)
shep 100gr Join Date: May 2010 Location: Fallston, Maryland Posts: 286	The Master List is just a list. Layed out with Microsoft Excel I believe. Listed for each broadhead is ABCC# / T / M / #of blades / Const / Ferr / Size / Grains / Manufacturer / Yr. / Desc. The "T" stands for # of traders and the "M" the head is in your collection For pictures you will need "The Best of Broadheads" books thru the ABCC, "The Patent and Advertisment Book", one of the on-line albums like the one Bowhunterfrompast has or one of the Wade Phillips books. Shep

04-20-2011, 09:22 PM	#8 (permalink)
tonychinn Trial Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Black Oak, Ky Posts: 17	I got my e-mail that my membership package has been sent. Tony

05-09-2011, 06:38 AM	#11 (permalink)
shep 100gr Join Date: May 2010 Location: Fallston, Maryland Posts: 286	Here is a pic of 3 of those "not really round" LaFonds. On the left is a 11/32" and a 5/16" ferr. They all measure under .260.