Fred Bear

I've been shooting the Montecs for several years now and have been somewhat happy. Blood trails have been very light but thinking back I really have not needed them. I always worry about the day I need a better blood trail. I have sharpened them to the point they pop hairs off my arm but still the blood trail is a drop here and a drop there even when put through the lungs and heart. I like a cut on contact fixed blade head. Been looking at the Magnus buzzcuts but from what I read they dont have a good reputation for blood trails. Is it possible to have a BH that just paints the floor and drops them quick yet still flies good?

05_sprcrw

They all will leave good blood, it just seems each deer is its own situation. I have had good blood with buzzcuts and terrible blood with them it all depends on where you hit.

I really think that if you shoot what you like and put a good shot on you will get the blood you need. That being said, most of my bow kills have had decent blood trails, with most of the blood staying in the cavity. I usually hit high, and exit low and get trails that I can walk but not anything crazy.

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Fabbri

If you wanna more blood, u have to choose 4 bladed broadheads
what abot to try slick trick RAZOR TRICK ?
4 blades, cut on contact.

Fred Bear

The Razor trick is the one I'm checking out. That or the Magnus buzzcut 4 blade. I do like that Razor trick.

GRIMWALD REAPER

I don't think I would agree with saying a 4 bladed head will give better blood trails.
Before moving to the Montec's, I used the G5 B52 two blade( predecessor to the Montec's) and had excellent results.
In one case I shot a doe, she ended up dieing of blood loss and expiring only about 50 yards from where I tagged her but she ran in circles, spraying blood over half of the forest. It took me 2 hours to find her. I actually passed her body twice before find her laying in a small depression. There was blood everywhere.
I proscribe to the fact that every animal and every encounter is different, it all comes down to the fact that you must place the shot well and the animal has to cooperate and die quickly.

GRIM

Fred Bear

went to my local shop and they did not have the magnus so I ended up with same razor tricks. I have to say out of the box they are sharp. I dont think the blades are gunna hold up that good though.

while it is true every animal is different I must say out of 4 or 5 deer that I have shot with the montecs did not leave a good blood trail at all. All of those were lung/heart shots. I have (before I lost a deer) shot the sidewinders and had incredible blood trails. But I will never shoot a mechanical again.

The razor tricks are kind of 2 blade with some big bleeder blades. I'm hoping for good results. They shoot just like my field points so thats all good. Now I just gotta make something bleed with them.

Fabbri

please let we know how blood tracks are.... send us a lot of pics please!!!!

Whitetail assain

I love the slick trick mags broad heads hold up like a tank 10ga slug holes my son slipped and fell in one of the blood trails. I shot 16 deer with them most blood trails you could see six feet ahead of you. If your looking for the best of both worlds try the two blade blood runners fixed blade tell hits deer then massive hole and Hugh blood trails.

tigerhunter

Is it possible to have a good BH that just paints the floor and drops them quick yet still flies good?
The short answer is all broadheads put in the right location will do the trick. To answer the question more specifically, not always. Shot placement, especially related to the angle has more influence on this than anything. Have you read Dr. Ashby's report on single bevel broadheads? Obviously you prefer cut on contact and this may be something you want to look into. Lots of good information there. As for performance, you will likely get 30-40 different broadheads thrown out there if enough people will just chime in on the subject. Just from my observations, all Slick Trick heads will produce an outstanding blood trail, depending on shot placement and all other factors that come into play, like how the bone reacts, the cartilage, flesh, skin, and guts for that matter. They can really find their way into a hole and plug that booger off and there isn't much any broadhead can do about that. One option you have, granted you are pulling enough poundage is to try something like the Slick Tricks, Wasp SST's, Trophy Taker Terminal or Shuttle T Lock's or NAP Thunderheads. Why? Because these are chisel tip style broadheads which produce a pronounced "pucker" of the hide upon impact, depressing the hide into the flesh sometimes more than an inch prior to actually cutting, or breaking through the skin. This is how you get the pronounced, over the top entry and exit wounds. Some may also argue for and against this point, but just a bit of simple application will demonstrate my point. Sometimes sharper, is not always better. Of course, this is dependent on the style of head, but think about cutting yourself with a dull knife as opposed to a sharp knife. I personally do prefer a sharp broadhead, sharp enough to cut you easily, but not shaving sharp. This causes more of the "pucker" I talked about earlier. I think that this leads to less skin and flesh to cover the hole. So, without going into physics, biology, and the rest of the nine-yards, this is just my .02.

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Fred Bear

good info tigerhunter. I think I have more than enough KE but I kept those montecs razor sharp and never was impressed at all by the blood trails. The "pucker" factor just may have something to do with it as the Montecs tips are sharp as a pin. Yes, all the deer I shot were dead within sight most times but I was never real confident if one went farther I would have decent blood to track it.
These razor tricks are not nearly as pin prick sharp on the point and they have 4 blades. All the deer I killed, the arrow was put right "there" and I never understood the lack of blood on the ground. My brother in law has had the same thing with half a dozen deer and the Montecs. You just might have something with the pucker.
I almost let the air out of a slick head tonight with these new BH's. If my safety harness had not got caught up in my release hand. I am interested in the trail I will get.

Fred Bear

Just browsed the Dr. Ashby report. Interesting stuff. Who makes a single bevel broad head?

Fabbri

RFA made a great 3 blade single bevel broadhead.
I would like to try them
now I am shooting zwickey no mercy single bevel 165 grains
easy to sharp, just with a file, tought and they fly very good on my bow

yfn667

Agreed. RFA makes the toughest broadheads around! I shoot the Phoenix's but the Razorhawks are just as tough

PLEW SC

I too am a COC fan and was really intersested in the Razortrick but after I talked a friend into trying them, he realized they penetrated and flew great but he had some blade damage after pass-thrus. So I stuck with my Phatheads but switched to the SOB's to get a better wound channel. I haven't killed as many with the SOB as with the standard phatheads but everyone of them have fallen in sight with great (RAGE-looking ) bloodtrails........and they are the stoutest I've ever used. or*


* might check out CTS's wound pics with the Simmons Landsharks. They are very impressive. Next time I see some Sharks in an archery shop , they will be coming home with me.

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tigerhunter

The Simmons Landsharks are really good heads. Tough, and fly very well with a little tuning. I put them in my quiver from time to time when I feel like throwing something new at them. When I am up for a change, I usually shoot the Landsharks, Buzzcuts, or the NAP Hellrazor. All of these require a little tuning, but they generally do a pretty good job of putting blood on the ground.

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