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Old 03-15-2010, 05:50 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Hey all...

David, do you still have the hissers? What shaft were you using when you were shooting them and they were hissing? Did they spin true? Did they have any nicks or were they really dull?

I've used the ST's since they came out and I haven't had any hissing problems, in fact I did a video on that, I'll have to hunt it up. Since I changed computers, I cant find anything
Presently I am shooting the ST Mag or STD (for turkeys when they come in) at 310 fps and no hiss that is audible and I shoot indoors (you saw my layout ).

I'd like to know what made the hiss also.

I will go along with Gerhard and say anyone that doesn't like their ST's, I'll buy em.

I used the Razortricks last year and if you didnt know they were on the arrow, you'd think they were the regular ST's. And man they are sharp! Looking at the wounds on deer, you'd have the same thoughts, great holes in and out. I think maybe if they didnt bury so deep in the ground, I may have been able to use them again (speculation). Only thing I dont like is that tiny locking screw cuz I need my cheaters to see em,lol.
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Old 03-16-2010, 06:32 AM   #47 (permalink)
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Hey all...

David, do you still have the hissers? What shaft were you using when you were shooting them and they were hissing? Did they spin true? Did they have any nicks or were they really dull?

I've used the ST's since they came out and I haven't had any hissing problems, in fact I did a video on that, I'll have to hunt it up. Since I changed computers, I cant find anything
Presently I am shooting the ST Mag or STD (for turkeys when they come in) at 310 fps and no hiss that is audible and I shoot indoors (you saw my layout ).

I'd like to know what made the hiss also.

I will go along with Gerhard and say anyone that doesn't like their ST's, I'll buy em.

I used the Razortricks last year and if you didnt know they were on the arrow, you'd think they were the regular ST's. And man they are sharp! Looking at the wounds on deer, you'd have the same thoughts, great holes in and out. I think maybe if they didnt bury so deep in the ground, I may have been able to use them again (speculation). Only thing I dont like is that tiny locking screw cuz I need my cheaters to see em,lol.
Hey Jerry - Welcome to BHT.

To answer your questions... I think I have like 1 left. I traded the others with someone on AT since I didn't like them. But in truth, it didn't matter whether or not the blades were new, used, or really used. They all whistled. And the biggest concern I had was that 1 of the blades was always loose no matter how much I tightened them. All of the shots were taken with my '05 Hoyt Ultramag, pushing a Beman ICS Hunter 400. The Slick Tricks did hit at the same POI as my FPs.

But I do know that I wasn't the only person I've seen where the Slick Tricks have whistled. Two of my friends have shot them and both of them whistled out of their setups. One of these guys doesn't care that they whistle and as such, he uses them for deer.

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Mixed feelings about the Tricks, spined a buck the ferrule broke where it threads into the arrow (got sent new ferrule) but then I killed 2 big bears, one went 20, the other 40 yards so that was great, but I noticed the blades don't hold their edge very well and nick easily...(but I have lots of spares) basically I change them after each kill.
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This thread is yet another example of how BROADHEADTALK.COM differs from other sites/forums(IMO). Nothing against any other site out there, but these posts are great.

A guy stating a problem he has/had, and another asking questions and giving suggestions(pro-staffer for the head in question). All the while, nobody is taking offense to any post, suggestions or questions. Everyone is here for the same reason, and this thread exemplifies that.

It's unfortunate that I've seen these types of threads on other sites and they turn argumentative in a hurry. Way to go guys, you ROCK!

Have I said, "I LOVE THIS SITE" lately?
What he said. This really is a great site. To bad on those STs. I havent had any issues with mine.
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Hey Jerry - Welcome to BHT.

To answer your questions... I think I have like 1 left. I traded the others with someone on AT since I didn't like them. But in truth, it didn't matter whether or not the blades were new, used, or really used. They all whistled. And the biggest concern I had was that 1 of the blades was always loose no matter how much I tightened them. All of the shots were taken with my '05 Hoyt Ultramag, pushing a Beman ICS Hunter 400. The Slick Tricks did hit at the same POI as my FPs.

But I do know that I wasn't the only person I've seen where the Slick Tricks have whistled. Two of my friends have shot them and both of them whistled out of their setups. One of these guys doesn't care that they whistle and as such, he uses them for deer.

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TY David, awesome site this place is!
Is there a chance I could get that ST you have and I'll send one back, it might have a big bend in it, hahaha (j/k)
I'd like to get my hands on that one and check it out. Just has me curious is all.
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Old 03-17-2010, 09:40 PM   #51 (permalink)
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How durable do slick tricks seem to be in general?
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Old 03-17-2010, 10:01 PM   #52 (permalink)
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How durable do slick tricks seem to be in general?
To answer your question with photos...

I shot this kudu cow at last light in May 2008.



This is the entrance wound







Exit



and this is how the broad head looked after the shot.



Hope that will give you an idea.

I am very happy and confident in them.
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I have not yet hunted with SK, but what impressed me with a packet of 100g Magnum's I bought and use to practise and do a 3D shoot was how accurate they were with my setup to 50 yards, up and down hill. They were still fairly sharp after all the 3D animals and shots in a broadhead butt, and not to mension it go where my FP go.

Also bought a packet Razon trick 100g. Seems to be similar to te ST, but ave not tested it much.
I am confident they will do the job.

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wow that is impressive. thanks for the help. Nice animal.
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Now where have I seen that kind of damage before...... Thems holes are pretty much what I expect after the trick leaves the bow! Nice shootin as well!
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I'm looking forward to flinging some 1 1/4 125 grizztricks at a michigan white tail this fall. I definitely will post the aftermath...well if I shoot one that is!
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The tricks seem to be pretty tough. I've hit all kinds of bones and the heads came out unscathed(100 gr. mags). Although last year while shooting Grizz Tricks I sheared off a whole blade. 25 yard broadside shot str8 thru a rib going in. I could tell the blades sheared off hitting the exiting rib. Massive entrance hole and slitted two blade exit. That does not change my view of this head. I believe it was a fluke. I like em along with many others. I also shot 2 other deer with the Grizz and they held up great. Biggest fixed holes you'll ever see and messy bloodtrails!
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I had great luck this year with Razor tricks... both animals down within eye sight. I have a couple packs of grizz trick's that I was going to use but when sighting them in last fall they didn't fly as well as the Razors and they hissed pretty bad. I have enough of them that I will do some more testing because they just look flat out mean... and I want to see if they are any better than the RT's on animals.
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The tricks seem to be pretty tough. I've hit all kinds of bones and the heads came out unscathed(100 gr. mags). Although last year while shooting Grizz Tricks I sheared off a whole blade. 25 yard broadside shot str8 thru a rib going in. I could tell the blades sheared off hitting the exiting rib. Massive entrance hole and slitted two blade exit. That does not change my view of this head. I believe it was a fluke. I like em along with many others. I also shot 2 other deer with the Grizz and they held up great. Biggest fixed holes you'll ever see and messy bloodtrails!
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I firmly believe that if a blade broke on a broad head when hitting bone and you still find the animal dead with in 100 yards from where it was shot that one can not "blame:" or "claim" that the broad head is not working correctly.

Not that you are Norm.

I have seen a lot of guys complain about blades bend or broken after hitting an animal.

If the animal is down quickly the broad head has done what it is designed for...

Killing animals.

Same thing goes for blood trails....

We had a hunter yesterday that shot a nice Blue Wildebeest Bull and he heard it crash about 80 yards from where he was shot.

We found very little blood on the spoor but you could follow the spoor left by the bull easily just looking at the branches broken.

The shot was a perfect middle of the vital triangle shot that hit the top of the hart and resulted in very little external bleeding.

Again the broad head did its job.

I personally had same type of scenario's while using Slick Tricks.

If I do my job by placing the arrow accurately in the middle of the vital triangle the 12ga size hole left by the Tricks ensure a quick clean kill.

Sometimes it happens that I screw up a shot but again the Tricks produced because of the massive hole it creates...
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I firmly believe that if a blade broke on a broad head when hitting bone and you still find the animal dead with in 100 yards from where it was shot that one can not "blame:" or "claim" that the broad head is not working correctly.

Not that you are Norm.

I have seen a lot of guys complain about blades bend or broken after hitting an animal.

If the animal is down quickly the broad head has done what it is designed for...

Killing animals.

Same thing goes for blood trails....

We had a hunter yesterday that shot a nice Blue Wildebeest Bull and he heard it crash about 80 yards from where he was shot.

We found very little blood on the spoor but you could follow the spoor left by the bull easily just looking at the branches broken.

The shot was a perfect middle of the vital triangle shot that hit the top of the hart and resulted in very little external bleeding.

Again the broad head did its job.

I personally had same type of scenario's while using Slick Tricks.

If I do my job by placing the arrow accurately in the middle of the vital triangle the 12ga size hole left by the Tricks ensure a quick clean kill.

Sometimes it happens that I screw up a shot but again the Tricks produced because of the massive hole it creates...
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Ya...definetly not knocking the head at all. I use them! I did not call Gary and complain about the broken head or anything like that. I know he'd send me a new head if I did. When a bh colides with a solid such as bone at 315 fps something just might give. I got no gripes at all. Non the less I will always be truthful about my experiences with products!
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