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Old 06-26-2010, 01:28 AM   #76 (permalink)
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hey Gerhard, i was wondering in those 5 years of shooting the slick trick heads when trying to group them with field points do you tend to have a hard time? im having a terribly hard time grouping them with my field points. they are always 8 inchs to the right at 20yds. im wondering if others have this issue and just move their sight over that amount or if they are able to really get them nice and tight with field points. plus are these broadheads really picky when it comes to speed bows? im shooting a bowtech guardian at #70 with 28inch arrows at some where around 300 fps. thanks for everyones help in advance. ive been tearing my hair out trying to figure out whats going on with these heads.
Cleve,

I suggest you start with paper tuning your bow.

Once you are happy with the paper tuning sight in your bow with field points.

Then start with broad head tuning with slick tricks.

What arrows are you shooting and what is the spine?

I am currently shooting the Destroyer 350.

30 inch Carbon Express Maxima Hunter 350 with total arrow weight of 450gr

The Destroyer push the arrow at 303fps at 70#.

The Slick Tricks fly like darts out to 50 yards.

Hope this helps.
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Old 06-26-2010, 12:26 PM   #77 (permalink)
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What Gerhard just said, it takes some time and fiddling around but it works. What I found so apparent about micro tuning is how much little movement you needed to do to both your rest and nock, either up or down or left and of right.

In the end when everything flies straight, its mind boggling and exciting at the same time !!!!

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Old 06-26-2010, 04:35 PM   #78 (permalink)
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thanks a lot guys for the speedy replies

when i first got the bow about 6 months ago, i papertuned it because it was bare. it was un-timed also so got everything within spec. since then i have shot a lot with it, 3d shoots, practice everyday, etc. so im guessing that i might have knocked something out of alignment on it. i will paper tune it in the next couple days and see what happens.

im using the new beman bone collector shafts, 340 spined which is right on the cusp for either 400 spine or 340 spine for 28 inch arrows at #70.

i read online that since im hitting left i can try and go with a lighter spine arrow due to i might be over spined.

i will see what happens when i paper tune it. if it keeps giving me trouble i will submit my observations

thanks again guys
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Old 06-27-2010, 08:59 AM   #79 (permalink)
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thanks a lot guys for the speedy replies

when i first got the bow about 6 months ago, i papertuned it because it was bare. it was un-timed also so got everything within spec. since then i have shot a lot with it, 3d shoots, practice everyday, etc. so im guessing that i might have knocked something out of alignment on it. i will paper tune it in the next couple days and see what happens.

im using the new beman bone collector shafts, 340 spined which is right on the cusp for either 400 spine or 340 spine for 28 inch arrows at #70.

i read online that since im hitting left i can try and go with a lighter spine arrow due to i might be over spined.

i will see what happens when i paper tune it. if it keeps giving me trouble i will submit my observations

thanks again guys

Good luck and enjoy it

I am sure you will get things sorted quickly
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Old 07-01-2010, 05:43 PM   #80 (permalink)
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i read online that since im hitting left i can try and go with a lighter spine arrow due to i might be over spined.
As you read the following bear in mind when I left the shop I purchased this bow from, I had already come very close to a couple of RH's before fully paying for the rig. But things just are made to tinker with and well my name is sometimes tinker.

Two years ago about this time I was learning how to tune my bow. Not knowing much about it except what i read on-line or in a couple of books, I was having a pretty rough time with it. I would do one thing and get it fine only to find I screwed up something else.

So I finally swallowed my pride and headed to a local shop. The fellow there was right on it and we did some test shots through paper, we did some test shots on targets, we adjusted this that and the other, then we changed arrows. I had been shooting some of the Predator II 6570's, along with some Beman Hunter 340's.( Since I was shooting it up to 70# I felt that this was correct.) Well when the arrow swapping started I was told that the ones I was shooting were way over spined for my bow and that was why it was shooting so crappy. Well on his dime, he grabbed up a few from the box up front, and cut them to length and installed inserts. First we tried some Beman 400's, they shot a bit better and he said hey we're headed the right direction. Then we dropped to some 500's, which at this point I am thinking are way to light. However the next three shots not only hit where I was aiming, but also tore nice round holes through the paper.

So he said let me make you up a dozen. Well I couldn't pay him for a few days so I told him to hold off till then. Meantime in the back of my head is going around these are WAY to light for this bow and this poundage. The next day I went back to the place I bought it from some hours drive away. The fellow I purchased it from wasn't there but another fellow knew me from when I got it asked how it was doing. I told him the whole thing, as he was shaking his head. He asked for the bow, and set it up in a clamp. It took him about 5 minutes to reset everything back like it was originally, then we walked through the door into the range where I proceeded to shoot 5 groups which even impresed him. Then came the broadheads, well the ones which started all of this were Magnus 2 blade Stingers. They would not shoot straight no matter what I had tried. So I was a bit apprenhisive about ruining his wall but let one rip. Center of the 5 spot almost dead center. 4 more were equally placed in the other spots. I was beside myself, and tried three other heads which all flew right where they were aimed. When I asked him what gives, he smiled and told it was a trade secrete. To be honest, I am not sure what he did but to this day it shoots where I point it with just about every broahead I screw on. Some fly a bit to one side or the other but they all hit within 3" of the POI at 20yd.

Just be careful about backing off the spine is what all of this is getting too. IT might cost you more than the price of the arrows.
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these broadheads are amazing. u run them thru an animal pick them up, sharpen them, and keep going
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