Dsotm223

Can someone please explain it to me? I'm trying to find the tip that best shaters bone, but i also want the facts on why that type of tip works the best. I'm hoping that some industry insiders, or broadhead makers can help me with this.

tcfire40

The best designs against bone I have used or seen used is the trocar style tip. Brands that use this style are Muzzy, Slick Trick, Grim Reaper and some others. I have heard some say that the razorcut tip from some of Grim Repaers heads can also make short work of bone. There are probably others that work well also if you can create enough KE.

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Red Feather Archery

I would stay away from conical tips, although anymore they are tough to find. In my findings thin blades don't handle bone as well as thicker blades. There is a lot of information in Dr. Ashby's reports. Here are a couple on single bevel designs and the heavy bone threshold. A lot of technical reading and one man's findings, but I've found for myself that his conclusions bear themselves out in my results as well. His research spurred my original prototyping of single bevel three blade broadheads.


http://www.tradgang.com/ashby/single...broadheads.pdf

Dr. Ashby Report - Heavy Bone Threshold


Here's a picture of the front leg of a blacktail buck on the exit wound side taken with a Phoenix single bevel broadhead.

wyetterp

SWEEEET! Great results.

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Mark Land

it has been proven time and again that the trocar style tip is the best tip for breaking and penetrating bone and has proven itself for ages.
Funny thing is the trocar tip was the hardest selling point about our heads when they were 1st introduced and most people just could not get their head around the concept, now that tip is the most copied tip in the industry and for a reason cuz it works!
Many have asked why we did not patent the trocar tip and that is easy, cuz it was invented 100's of years ago as a way to penetrate heavy armor in battle as conical or round type tips would not penetrate thru and the 3 sided tip did.
I have witness 100's of animals being shot and having been shot with a multitude of heads and can attest to the effectiveness of a trocar tip on hard bone impacts.
If you are pushing the energy out of your setup for penetration, then I always advise using the trocar tip style since all shots do not always go where we want them to and you should be prepared for the worst case scenario.

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longbow42

A strong, thick, two bladed head will penetrate bone better than a trocar. Asby's tests proved that as did mine.

Mark Land

I beg to differ and see my post above about energy, if you are producing enough energy a trocar tip will outdo any other point style in hard bone impacts. Problem with some 2bl heads in larger bones is the tendency to stick and wedge in the bone as they have more of a tendency to split the bone more then break and shatter it and that can cause a problem with lower energy setups on big bones. Asby's testing was done using rib bones which have more of a tendency to split and crack due to the linear nature of the bone and it's structure as they are designed to expand and contract as the animal breathes and this can affect how a broadhead penetrates them in coparison to leg bones which are more circular and have more of a tendency to crack and shatter.
Of course there are some bone structures that no matter what you are shooting, they are going to be difficult to impossible to penetrate with just about any head.

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