Ulmer Broadhead -

empty hull · 01-02-2012, 04:38 PM

They are suppose to start marketing these this month, anyone heard anything else from Trophy Taker? Tim

mudslinger · 01-02-2012, 05:06 PM

Looks like a great head. It will definitley be tested by myself, but I can tell you, it is going to take one heck of a great perfoming head to get me to take my Ramcats out of my quiver. Have not heard if they are shipping yet or not.

yfn667 · 01-06-2012, 11:41 AM

Edge - Broadhead - Trophy Taker Heres a link. I cant wait to get my hands on these!

Flatout · 01-06-2012, 02:47 PM

This looks VERY similar to a Swhacker.

PassingThrough · 01-06-2012, 08:49 PM

It acts differently than the shwacker. Works more like a gator. I researched this one when I was thinking of the mechanical I wanted to make. The one I made is rear deploy much like this. I have it posted in the homegrown section. Check out the video of how the Ulmner operates and a hunt it is used on.

Trophy Taker new blade review - YouTube

Fabbri · 01-07-2012, 04:11 AM

It is a copy of the Gator expandable broadhead, with the same troubles in penetration and with the add of a o-ring. In my opinion, I think it's nothing special...... a good broadhead for little animals 'couse of the low penetration (based about what I saw with the gators in my broadhead target)

PassingThrough · 01-07-2012, 08:39 AM

Fabbri, my friend, you might be completely right. It will take some KE. However, I think that the increased blade angle ( how it sweeps back more with an angle and less like a straight blade chopping) will aid in penetration. You can see it here.

The smaller 1.5" cutting diameter will also increase penetration over the gators 2"...I think. I could be completely wrong but it makes sense in my completely deranged head...lol.

I think you are right on with the smaller, thin skinned game like deer. I'm not saying it wouldn't be a complete pass through on an elk or moose but I would love to see it.

yfn667 · 01-07-2012, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by PassingThrough

Fabbri, my friend, you might be completely right. It will take some KE. However, I think that the increased blade angle ( how it sweeps back more with an angle and less like a straight blade chopping) will aid in penetration. You can see it here.
The smaller 1.5" cutting diameter will also increase penetration over the gators 2"...I think. I could be completely wrong but it makes sense in my completely deranged head...lol.

I think you are right on with the smaller, thin skinned game like deer. I'm not saying it wouldn't be a complete pass through on an elk or moose but I would love to see it.

This is exactly what i was thinking. More slicing with this blade angle than chopping which should give better penetration.

Fabbri · 01-07-2012, 11:27 AM

For me the problem isn't the lenght of the blades.... for me the problem is the opening "blades" that are not sharpened and offer a big surface to penetration
take a front look at the broadhead, you can see the unsharped blades giving a 0,78" of "breaking surface"

if we are making our broadheads shaving sharp, 0,78" of totally unsharped blades will offer a zero penetration, 'couse it thoughtness must be added to the sharp surface of the blades.
when I hitted the broadhead target it was almost falling and I heard a loud "BUM"

it is in my opinion only, for sure who knows more could tell me I am wrong.

Fabbri · 01-07-2012, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by yfn667

This is exactly what i was thinking. More slicing with this blade angle than chopping which should give better penetration.

For me a solution could be to give a single bevel to the unsharped blades

for me.... I am not a master, just a poor stupid italian man

yfn667 · 01-07-2012, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fabbri

For me a solution could be to give a single bevel to the unsharped blades

for me.... I am not a master, just a poor stupid italian man

Ive actually never thought about that. That is a good point. I think someone should test that! Itd prove to be interesting. Also. Does that knife happen to be a spyderco?

Fabbri · 01-08-2012, 03:02 AM

yes it is. Spyderco caly 3, 420hc+zdp189 steel blade. edge retention is very good

Dsotm223 · 01-09-2012, 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fabbri

For me the problem isn't the lenght of the blades.... for me the problem is the opening "blades" that are not sharpened and offer a big surface to penetration
take a front look at the broadhead, you can see the unsharped blades giving a 0,78" of "breaking surface"

if we are making our broadheads shaving sharp, 0,78" of totally unsharped blades will offer a zero penetration, 'couse it thoughtness must be added to the sharp surface of the blades.
when I hitted the broadhead target it was almost falling and I heard a loud "BUM"

it is in my opinion only, for sure who knows more could tell me I am wrong.

You know I never thought of that either! very good point.

01-02-2012, 04:38 PM	#1 (permalink)
empty hull 100gr Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Baton Rouge, La Posts: 100	Ulmer Broadhead They are suppose to start marketing these this month, anyone heard anything else from Trophy Taker? Tim

01-02-2012, 05:06 PM	#2 (permalink)
mudslinger 125gr Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 321	Looks like a great head. It will definitley be tested by myself, but I can tell you, it is going to take one heck of a great perfoming head to get me to take my Ramcats out of my quiver. Have not heard if they are shipping yet or not. __________________ 09 HCA Speed Pro 29" 70# Gold Tip XT Hunter 28" @560 grains Smoke Ramcats!

01-06-2012, 11:41 AM	#3 (permalink)
yfn667 85gr Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 85	Edge - Broadhead - Trophy Taker Heres a link. I cant wait to get my hands on these! __________________ Bowtech Assassin 63lb 27" RFA Phoenix's

01-07-2012, 08:39 AM	#7 (permalink)
PassingThrough 85gr Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Fayetteville, GA Posts: 84	Fabbri, my friend, you might be completely right. It will take some KE. However, I think that the increased blade angle ( how it sweeps back more with an angle and less like a straight blade chopping) will aid in penetration. You can see it here. The smaller 1.5" cutting diameter will also increase penetration over the gators 2"...I think. I could be completely wrong but it makes sense in my completely deranged head...lol. I think you are right on with the smaller, thin skinned game like deer. I'm not saying it wouldn't be a complete pass through on an elk or moose but I would love to see it. Last edited by PassingThrough; 01-07-2012 at 09:05 AM.

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01-06-2012, 02:47 PM	#4 (permalink)
Flatout Trial Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 1	This looks VERY similar to a Swhacker.

01-06-2012, 08:49 PM	#5 (permalink)
PassingThrough 85gr Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Fayetteville, GA Posts: 84	It acts differently than the shwacker. Works more like a gator. I researched this one when I was thinking of the mechanical I wanted to make. The one I made is rear deploy much like this. I have it posted in the homegrown section. Check out the video of how the Ulmner operates and a hunt it is used on. Trophy Taker new blade review - YouTube

01-07-2012, 04:11 AM	#6 (permalink)
Fabbri 125gr Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Latina, Italy Posts: 319	It is a copy of the Gator expandable broadhead, with the same troubles in penetration and with the add of a o-ring. In my opinion, I think it's nothing special...... a good broadhead for little animals 'couse of the low penetration (based about what I saw with the gators in my broadhead target)

01-07-2012, 11:27 AM	#9 (permalink)
Fabbri 125gr Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Latina, Italy Posts: 319	For me the problem isn't the lenght of the blades.... for me the problem is the opening "blades" that are not sharpened and offer a big surface to penetration take a front look at the broadhead, you can see the unsharped blades giving a 0,78" of "breaking surface" if we are making our broadheads shaving sharp, 0,78" of totally unsharped blades will offer a zero penetration, 'couse it thoughtness must be added to the sharp surface of the blades. when I hitted the broadhead target it was almost falling and I heard a loud "BUM" it is in my opinion only, for sure who knows more could tell me I am wrong.

01-08-2012, 03:02 AM	#12 (permalink)
Fabbri 125gr Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Latina, Italy Posts: 319	yes it is. Spyderco caly 3, 420hc+zdp189 steel blade. edge retention is very good