Andy

Well, it looks as if Limbsaver is getting in to the broadhead market for 2010. They are "collaborating" with American Broadhead Company (Sonic Broadheads) to offer you the Limbsaver Turkey Terror, Limbsaver Steel Sonic, and Limbsaver Super Sonic.

From what I've read, and from members statements on this forum about Sonic Broadheads, they produce a quality product and have a decent following. So why would American Broadhead Company need or want Limbsaver? I realize Limbsaver is a much bigger company, household name, etc. I just don't understand the benefit, other than Limbsaver getting their foot into the door of the broadhead market.

Am I missing something?

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Booner

I wonder if Sims owns a portion of the company. I know Sonic made the Buckmasters head but that is not another Manuf. company. ?????????????????

cartman308

Maybe Greg had the ideas drawn up and possible patented but didn't want to invest in the equipment....... Sonic wants a bigger following, why not add Simms to their lineup.

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J-Daddy

I've never shot the Sonic heads but I always heard they fly awesome..Only bad thing I ever heard was the tip rolling over or busting off but that stuff can happen with about any head. They always looked like they'd be great flying heads.

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Booner

Doe Commander did a review over on broadheadshed.com on the 75gr. head. He said they hit like a hammer. He shot a doe on a hill top while he was standing at the bottom of the hill...after pass through, they found his arrow almost 100 yards behind her.....Whoa!!!

yoda4x4

Based upon my experiences with the Sonic BHs, both directly and indirectly, I believe the following to be true:

1) The Sonic heads are not perceived to be a high quality BH. I say this because in most, if not all of the posts I've read on AT, most of the feedback is of the effect - they fly like FPs but they don't hold up. (INDIRECT)
2) Like many others, I had received the free BH sample that Sonic had provided. Unfortunately like many others, their first free sample had quality issues where the tips of the blades did not assemble as expected; ;there was a gap at the tip where the blades meet. Sonic acknowledged this and sent out a second, corrected free sample. The problem with this is their first impression was a bust. For someone like myself (I'm an engineer by trade), I would be very suspect of buying a BH from a company that not only has manufacturing issues, but does not have sufficient quality control in place. I realize that problems do arise, but with great companies, the problems never make it out the door. They're caught before that happens.

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varmint101

Benefit being LS has MUCH bigger pockets for R&D is my guess. Makes sense to me. Kinda like Smith and Wesson buying Thompson Center. They still get to do their thing, but have the backing of a monster company like S&W so they can really get after it.

BuckFeverLodge

I can't see this being a good thing for LS, but it's the American way. It seems that in th past 20-30 years it has become the norm to over-diversify your product line. A gleaming example of this is General Motors. 50 plus years ago, they build just a handful of different auto types. Today (pre-crisis) they seemed to build a car to fit every need. I couldn't count how many different models they had to choose from, I would get a headache.

Limbsaver, IMO, is following the "American" way of business practice. Diversify your products to a point where your core business is so diluted that you don't really have a core business anymore. Profit margins will suffer, the division will be dropped, and heads will roll. But hey, at least they tried, right? The market is already flooded with broadheads, and with strong competition at that.

For the record, I have nothing against either company, it's just my opinion on this topic. No worries.

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Jeff K in IL

Well, I would hope that maybe they could collaberate with them to bring out some better designed broadheads. I had a few friends that were HUGE supporters of the ABC Broadheads, and they were staff shooters. They tried to help them with bringing something out that would be an improvement to the current line. They said they would not budge on their position; so those two guys left and went onto support other broadhead companies.

Its a good head, they fly well, but they need to be tougher!

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PABowhunter4life

I know exactly who you're talking about bud and I agree. They fly well, they are very sharp.....but their durability leaves a lot to be desired.

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doncrs

The person who owns ABC,leased some hunting property from my brother last year and gave him some bh to try,and my brother likes them,he had no problems with them and even took a few deer with them.I use RAMCATS and love them,but i think the sonics would be great for low poundage bows,like for kids who shoot 35lbs,which is leagle here in Alabama.
PS:I would like to get some of the super sonics to test.

srtp

I think their heads could be a little stronger, but I had a nice 298# bear taken by a customer with the 85 grain and several customers who have shot some nice deer with these heads. Oh and as far as not letting a quality issue like this get out the door..... I give you toyota,gm,ford,honda,chrysler and about every other auto manufacturer out there. Mathews,Martin,Bowtech,Hoyt, and the rest have had issues in the past also.

cartman308

Comparing auto companies or even bow manufacurers to a broadhead maker just insnt a good comparison. Both are much more complex pieces of equipment than a broadhead. ABC shouldnthave let free "samples" out the door for people to formulate an opinion of their product that were defective.

I never heard anymore about this partnership other than this threadthough. May have missed it.

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srtp

I agree but you are missing the point.(no pun) When you have been established and are in a catagory like the fore mentioned manufacturers, id hope with the backing and tech that they have i, would be better than a little company like abc and my point is they have issues to, even at their size.

Bob Weeks, Owner: Smith River Trading Post

cartman308

I see you point (lol). Still ABC will rely mostly on it's own machining, equipment, quality control, etc. The autos have to rely heavily on suppliers and have to trust they know what they are doing.

Point is ABC let out "samples" that were very poor quality. This left many people with a bad impression. But his is ancient history in terms of bow equipment. .

Shoot straight!

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