Sharpening Single Bevels -

Dox · 01-28-2010, 08:53 AM

Hi fellow archers,

Could someone explain how to sharpen single bevel heads using the Lansky Sharpening System.

Thanks
Dox

PassingThrough · 01-05-2012, 08:01 AM

I have been interested in the single bevel sharpening myself. Any help in this area would be appreciated. I would like to see any and all methods of sharpening single bevels. If there is more than one that is great. Putting all ideas out there only strengthens broadhead talk and us as archers.

So lets see 'em!

PassingThrough · 01-06-2012, 09:21 PM

If anyone is interested. I saw how Stan from Red Feather Archery does it and seems like you could use a combination of these to get a single bevel razor sharp. Thanks again Stan you are the man.

JigSharp_0001.wmv - YouTube

HandSharp - YouTube

roosclan · 02-25-2012, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PassingThrough

If anyone is interested. I saw how Stan from Red Feather Archery does it and seems like you could use a combination of these to get a single bevel razor sharp. Thanks again Stan you are the man.

JigSharp_0001.wmv - YouTube

HandSharp - YouTube

Stan actually has a different jig for the Phoenix now, one that works really well. I'm still trying to figure out a better way to sharpen my RazorHawks than the freehand technique I'm using right now...

PassingThrough · 03-01-2012, 01:02 PM

I use a lansky sharpening system on my straight blade broadheads. Not sure if the stone will clear the ferrule on the razorhawk. If not take the blade out of the ferrule and sharpen them that way. I'm sure you could get them hair popping sharp after that. Then strop them with a little rouge. Makes a huge difference.

05_sprcrw · 03-01-2012, 02:45 PM

I personally like to free hand sharpen mine, it takes some practice but once you get it down you can just keep a stone on hand and touch them up in the field for quick reuse. For some that may not be needed but I only take one arrow to the tree with me occasionally 2 so I like to have the ability to climb down and retrieve the arrow, if I saw the deer go down in sight and have another tag I climb back up, resharpen and keep waiting.

PassingThrough · 03-01-2012, 06:31 PM

I don't think I could hunt with one arrow here in GA. We are allowed to shoot 12 whitetail (2bucks, 10 doe) per season. My luck I would have a caravan of deer at the bottom of my stand having a tailgate party wanting to camp out. That and if I have the chance to nail a few coyotes before or after I shoot a deer I'm all game for that.

But hey man do what works for you. "You The Man" for hand sharpening. That is one skill I have never been able to master. Great skill to have.

Red Feather Archery · 03-01-2012, 08:43 PM

Dang, how'd I miss this one?

Sharpening single bevels is not all that hard. Sharpening in general is a matter of establishing a consistent angle on what is to be sharpened until you've raised a burr on the opposite side. Once a burr is raised on the opposite side I like to swipe it off with light pressure by pushing it lightly into the edge. Other people like to work that burr back and forth with lighter pressure and finer stones until it's gone.

I sharpen by hand with a file too, as seen in the hand sharp video above.

The jig we sell now was an idea that a customer of mine came up with and it works like a charm for the three blade, especially if you like the mirror polished type of razor edge. I like that for my woodworking tools (almost all of which are single bevel) but for a broadhead I've never had an issue with a file sharpened head.

For the Razorhawks you should find that there is enough clearance that you will not hit the ferrule when you sharpen them. As a side note if you really like the polished edge and want a super simple system that is nearly foolproof, check out the slotted paper wheel systems that they sell at places like Woodcraft. Unbelieveably sharp stuff in just a minute or so.

What I like about sharpening single beveled things, be they plane irons, chisels, knives or broadheads is that the flat side doesn't need a jig of any kind. I also like that on a single bevel you can do the angled side once really well, and then establish a secondary bevel at a 3-5 degree greater angle and touch that micro bevel up really easily when it becomes dull as opposed to reshaping the entire side of the blade. This is easy to do with the jig by backing the screw out just a little bit after you've done the entire edge and swiping it a couple of times on the 2000 or 4000 grit paper (or down to 8000 grit or into the microns if that's what your set up is)

None of this probably makes sense without pictures. If I get any time on Sunday I'll try to do a video with drawings if there is any interest to explain what it is I'm struggling to type.

This probably makes no sense without pictures.

roosclan · 03-01-2012, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Feather Archery

Dang, how'd I miss this one?

Sharpening single bevels is not all that hard. Sharpening in general is a matter of establishing a consistent angle on what is to be sharpened until you've raised a burr on the opposite side. Once a burr is raised on the opposite side I like to swipe it off with light pressure by pushing it lightly into the edge. Other people like to work that burr back and forth with lighter pressure and finer stones until it's gone.

I sharpen by hand with a file too, as seen in the hand sharp video above.

The jig we sell now was an idea that a customer of mine came up with and it works like a charm for the three blade, especially if you like the mirror polished type of razor edge. I like that for my woodworking tools (almost all of which are single bevel) but for a broadhead I've never had an issue with a file sharpened head.

For the Razorhawks you should find that there is enough clearance that you will not hit the ferrule when you sharpen them. As a side note if you really like the polished edge and want a super simple system that is nearly foolproof, check out the slotted paper wheel systems that they sell at places like Woodcraft. Unbelieveably sharp stuff in just a minute or so.

What I like about sharpening single beveled things, be they plane irons, chisels, knives or broadheads is that the flat side doesn't need a jig of any kind. I also like that on a single bevel you can do the angled side once really well, and then establish a secondary bevel at a 3-5 degree greater angle and touch that micro bevel up really easily when it becomes dull as opposed to reshaping the entire side of the blade. This is easy to do with the jig by backing the screw out just a little bit after you've done the entire edge and swiping it a couple of times on the 2000 or 4000 grit paper (or down to 8000 grit or into the microns if that's what your set up is)

None of this probably makes sense without pictures. If I get any time on Sunday I'll try to do a video with drawings if there is any interest to explain what it is I'm struggling to type.

This probably makes no sense without pictures.

As I have the Phoenix sharpening jig, it makes perfect sense to me. What I'm having a hard time with is freehand sharpening my RazorHawks. You mentioned at one point that the KME sharpener will work well for the RazorHawks. Is that the broadhead sharpener or the knife sharpener?

05_sprcrw · 03-02-2012, 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PassingThrough

I don't think I could hunt with one arrow here in GA. We are allowed to shoot 12 whitetail (2bucks, 10 doe) per season. My luck I would have a caravan of deer at the bottom of my stand having a tailgate party wanting to camp out. That and if I have the chance to nail a few coyotes before or after I shoot a deer I'm all game for that.

But hey man do what works for you. "You The Man" for hand sharpening. That is one skill I have never been able to master. Great skill to have.

We are allowed alot here as well I believe it is up to 16 now, I guess I just know that I have to drag the deer and do the butchering myself so I don't like really taking more then 2 at any given time. Plus the way our permits work we only get 2 per permit but are allow to purchase more permits. So legally unless they bought more permits ahead of time we could only take 2 in a single hunt.

Alot of it is I don't like quivers on the bow and don't like carrying one along is the primary reason for me only carrying one arrow.

PassingThrough · 03-02-2012, 10:27 AM

I hear ya on the dragging part. Thats pretty cool way of doing it. We get 12 tags with our big games license so it doesn't cost any more or less. I only carry 2 arrows when I turkey hunt. Those bullheads take up too much room.

PassingThrough · 03-02-2012, 10:32 AM

I think I get most of it Stan but pictures are worth 1000words and a video is even better if you ask me. I look forward to it.

Fabbri · 03-02-2012, 11:47 AM

I use a bastard file and after it I strop with leather and abrasive paste or 1200grit stone or ceramic rod
I can cut my hair .......

roosclan · 03-02-2012, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 05_sprcrw

We are allowed alot here as well I believe it is up to 16 now, I guess I just know that I have to drag the deer and do the butchering myself so I don't like really taking more then 2 at any given time. Plus the way our permits work we only get 2 per permit but are allow to purchase more permits. So legally unless they bought more permits ahead of time we could only take 2 in a single hunt.

Alot of it is I don't like quivers on the bow and don't like carrying one along is the primary reason for me only carrying one arrow.

16 deer in a season???? I need to move back to Nebraska... (of course, that will mean trying to make new contacts to find hunting land that won't cost an arm & a leg)

I do my own butchering as well, so I fully understand that aspect of it. I still use a quiver with my bow, although I take it off when I get to my spot. I keep 3 broadheads (2 different kinds) and 1 small game head, although after I get my bow back from new strings & a tune, I'll have time to properly broadhead tune and will probably knock that down to 2 broadheads and a small game head. If the squirrels get too annoying, I can try to take one out and hopefully drive the others away.

UrbanDeerSlayer · 03-02-2012, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roosclan

16 deer in a season???? I need to move back to Nebraska... (of course, that will mean trying to make new contacts to find hunting land that won't cost an arm & a leg)

.

In my part of PA, after the initial sale of tags, you can go back and buy as many as you want, until they sell out. Best part, they never sell them out. Worst part, you can't find many good spots to hunt. It's a catch 22. Deer everywhere, posted signs everywhere and only 1 small overrun state game land in the county. I'll drive past 20 deer grazing a local ball field , or on a hillside off the highway, but can't find a way to get into those areas to hunt them. Too many houses, too many deer, and too many anti-hunters....It drives me nuts.

01-28-2010, 08:53 AM	#1 (permalink)
Dox Trial Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 11	Sharpening Single Bevels Hi fellow archers, Could someone explain how to sharpen single bevel heads using the Lansky Sharpening System. Thanks Dox

03-01-2012, 02:45 PM	#6 (permalink)
05_sprcrw Broadhead Tester Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lincoln, NE Posts: 1,445	I personally like to free hand sharpen mine, it takes some practice but once you get it down you can just keep a stone on hand and touch them up in the field for quick reuse. For some that may not be needed but I only take one arrow to the tree with me occasionally 2 so I like to have the ability to climb down and retrieve the arrow, if I saw the deer go down in sight and have another tag I climb back up, resharpen and keep waiting. __________________ New Breed Archery Samurai Genetix 82lbs 29" 550 Grains 16% F.O.C. 282 fps, RFA Phoenix and Razorhawk Broadheads

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Fabbri 125gr Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Latina, Italy Posts: 319	I use a bastard file and after it I strop with leather and abrasive paste or 1200grit stone or ceramic rod I can cut my hair ....... Last edited by Fabbri; 03-02-2012 at 12:28 PM.

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01-05-2012, 08:01 AM	#2 (permalink)
PassingThrough 85gr Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Fayetteville, GA Posts: 84	I have been interested in the single bevel sharpening myself. Any help in this area would be appreciated. I would like to see any and all methods of sharpening single bevels. If there is more than one that is great. Putting all ideas out there only strengthens broadhead talk and us as archers. So lets see 'em!

01-06-2012, 09:21 PM	#3 (permalink)
PassingThrough 85gr Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Fayetteville, GA Posts: 84	If anyone is interested. I saw how Stan from Red Feather Archery does it and seems like you could use a combination of these to get a single bevel razor sharp. Thanks again Stan you are the man. JigSharp_0001.wmv - YouTube HandSharp - YouTube

03-01-2012, 01:02 PM	#5 (permalink)
PassingThrough 85gr Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Fayetteville, GA Posts: 84	I use a lansky sharpening system on my straight blade broadheads. Not sure if the stone will clear the ferrule on the razorhawk. If not take the blade out of the ferrule and sharpen them that way. I'm sure you could get them hair popping sharp after that. Then strop them with a little rouge. Makes a huge difference.

03-01-2012, 06:31 PM	#7 (permalink)
PassingThrough 85gr Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Fayetteville, GA Posts: 84	I don't think I could hunt with one arrow here in GA. We are allowed to shoot 12 whitetail (2bucks, 10 doe) per season. My luck I would have a caravan of deer at the bottom of my stand having a tailgate party wanting to camp out. That and if I have the chance to nail a few coyotes before or after I shoot a deer I'm all game for that. But hey man do what works for you. "You The Man" for hand sharpening. That is one skill I have never been able to master. Great skill to have.

03-01-2012, 08:43 PM	#8 (permalink)
Red Feather Archery Broadhead Maker Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 757	Dang, how'd I miss this one? Sharpening single bevels is not all that hard. Sharpening in general is a matter of establishing a *consistent* angle on what is to be sharpened until you've raised a burr on the opposite side. Once a burr is raised on the opposite side I like to swipe it off with light pressure by pushing it lightly into the edge. Other people like to work that burr back and forth with lighter pressure and finer stones until it's gone. I sharpen by hand with a file too, as seen in the hand sharp video above. The jig we sell now was an idea that a customer of mine came up with and it works like a charm for the three blade, especially if you like the mirror polished type of razor edge. I like that for my woodworking tools (almost all of which are single bevel) but for a broadhead I've never had an issue with a file sharpened head. For the Razorhawks you should find that there is enough clearance that you will not hit the ferrule when you sharpen them. As a side note if you really like the polished edge and want a super simple system that is nearly foolproof, check out the slotted paper wheel systems that they sell at places like Woodcraft. Unbelieveably sharp stuff in just a minute or so. What I like about sharpening single beveled things, be they plane irons, chisels, knives or broadheads is that the flat side doesn't need a jig of any kind. I also like that on a single bevel you can do the angled side once really well, and then establish a secondary bevel at a 3-5 degree greater angle and touch that micro bevel up really easily when it becomes dull as opposed to reshaping the entire side of the blade. This is easy to do with the jig by backing the screw out just a little bit after you've done the entire edge and swiping it a couple of times on the 2000 or 4000 grit paper (or down to 8000 grit or into the microns if that's what your set up is) None of this probably makes sense without pictures. If I get any time on Sunday I'll try to do a video with drawings if there is any interest to explain what it is I'm struggling to type. This probably makes no sense without pictures.

03-02-2012, 10:27 AM	#11 (permalink)
PassingThrough 85gr Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Fayetteville, GA Posts: 84	I hear ya on the dragging part. Thats pretty cool way of doing it. We get 12 tags with our big games license so it doesn't cost any more or less. I only carry 2 arrows when I turkey hunt. Those bullheads take up too much room.

03-02-2012, 10:32 AM	#12 (permalink)
PassingThrough 85gr Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Fayetteville, GA Posts: 84	I think I get most of it Stan but pictures are worth 1000words and a video is even better if you ask me. I look forward to it.