Dox

Hi Guys

For interest sake, what can an Ashby Head do what a Silverflame can't in terms of penetration,integrity, etc.

I did read the Ashby research stuff but would like to know from fellow archers.

thanks
Dox

Wood

I only have limited experience of 1 cow elk with a 125 grain Silver Flame. total arrow weight about 450 grains shot at about 280. 30 yard shot, cut a rib in half going in and buried in the dirt from tree stand. Elk ran about 40 yards, stopped and fell over (double lung)

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Andy

The main difference in the two is in the single bevel design of the Ashby Head. This would be a great question for the folks at Alaska Broadhead Co., so I'm going to move this thread over there.

Andy

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todd smith

Hey guys,

First, the Silver Flame is an awesome head. We consider it the best double bevel head going.

That said, the answer is really in the Ashby reports. The Ashby's single bevel design and high mechanical advantage allows it to split bone that a Silver Flame would have to try to wedge through. Double bevel heads can make it thorough bone, but the shaft normally still gets pinched by the bone once the broadhead clears. Once a single bevel head splits the bone, and especaially if you have a full length tapered or very thin shaft following, then the arrow is not pinched by intact bone and as such the penetration potential is greatly increased.

As a side note, Alaska Bowhunting Supply recently aquired the rights to the Silver Flame.

That's the quick reply version todd

Dox

Todd

Thanks for that.
ashby heads would definately be a must for game like elephant and rhino!
Thanks again

sjb3

Are the Silver Flames still going to be available?

cartman308

My guess/hope is yes but under the AlaskaBroadhead banner

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todd smith

Silver Flames are being produced right now. The plan is to finally have enough to keep up with demand.

cartman308 is correct, they will now be known as GrizzyStik Silver Flames. todd

wyetterp

The right to sell silverflames right. Not the rights to silverflame. Last I heard german kenetics still own silverflame.

wyetterp

I also found out the new silverflames where going to be made in china!!!!

Standing Bear

What I can say about the new Silverflame broadheads that are made in China, only that they are one extremely tough broadhead. I have been shooting the New ABS Silverflame XL and they have exceeded all of my expectations. I shoot a 85 lbs APA Black Mamba 7.5 with ABS Safari Grizzlystiks.

I practice shooting at a 48" X 48" sheet of 3/4" good one side plywood. I staple my target on it and let my arrows fly and after shooting over 25 shots and breaking through every time, that darn broadhead that is made in China keeps on ticking. The edge retainability is excellent and the head sustained no damage.

And if you want to see something that will blow your mind away, wood chips flying everywhere, then put on the ABS Maasai broadhead. I have shot the 125/150 grain single bevel Maasai's that were also made in China and, again, the back of the 3/4 inch plywood was severly damaged with the broadhead going through everytime.

Great job on the broadheads ABS

LCH

Are they cheaper since they are made in China?LCH

187BOWHUNTER

The Silver Flames sold by Alaskabowhunting are made in Korea with Japanese steel (I learned this from calling ABH) but they are also being made in Germany again under German-Kinetics and are available through "redneckpoint". Their website is in german but you can email them.

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