Getting Started -

Booner · 01-25-2010, 10:57 PM

I just picked up a 2ft. x 8" piece of Stainless Steel commercial bandsaw blade. I think it will make a great set of homemade heads....anyone with the advice can bring it to the table....I'm ready.

DoeCommander · 01-26-2010, 10:38 AM

you'd be better off with a chert rock . . . .

HuntingtonsAssassin · 01-26-2010, 12:47 PM

No advise, but I wish you luck!

Mule426 · 01-26-2010, 12:50 PM

What ever you do, document and allow us to follow allong!!! I bet archer would be the one to guide you through this!!!!

Booner · 01-26-2010, 03:28 PM

Chert Rock...hahaha. Good call. Archer went ghost on us....haven't seen him.

Archer · 01-27-2010, 08:50 PM

He is just swamped.

I am on the Board Of directors of the Wisconsin Bowhunters Association and my duties have me very busy lately. I too would love to see these heads built from bandsaw blades.

BuckFeverLodge · 01-27-2010, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archer

"I too would love to see these heads built from bandsaw blades."

There you go Archer, don't throw Booner a bone, make him work for it. It's a give and take world ya know.

So Booner.............do you have a name yet for said bandsaw head? Anyone have any suggestions for Booner's potential new head? Oh wait, that will take this thread way off topic. Ooops......

Archer · 01-28-2010, 05:40 AM

Your right, it's sort of a "Give a man a fish vs teach a man to fish.

Necessity is the mother of inventions but success has many fathers.................. I think I am out of clever sayings.................... Oh wait, one more. Duct tape is like the force. It has a dark side and a light side and it holds the universe together.

Booner, post a pic of that piece of metal, I have never heard of such a big bandsaw blade.

cartman308 · 01-28-2010, 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archer

Booner, post a pic of that piece of metal, I have never heard of such a big bandsaw blade.

yea. Post a pic of that. Must be the mother of all bandsAws!

Booner · 01-28-2010, 09:19 PM

Check it....

BuckFeverLodge · 01-28-2010, 09:57 PM

Booner - first of all, NICE NEW AVATAR!!! Now that's flashy. I like it.

Second, your wife will kill you if she finds out you had that rusty hunk of metal on her granite countertop.

I won't tell, I promise......

Third, where did you get such a blade? That thing is mean looking.

Arrowds · 01-29-2010, 08:57 AM

I'd assume you'll be making a more traditional two blade/cut to the tip style head from this? If so...I'd recommend simply drawing up with detailed dimensions exactly what it is you'd like...Depending on the thickness of the blade...and that looks easiliy thick enough....I'd be you could even run out the standard .200" insert alignment barrel which then goes into the 8/32 threaded portion of the broadhead. You may have some "Flats" on each side...but enough metal to actually run it thru a die to put the 8/32 threads on it. This should provide enough mechanical advantage to stay in the ferrul/not pull out. Anyway, take your drawing to a local machine shop.
Have them cut the massive band saw blade you stole...I mean found... into lengths/widths and stack them together. Have them then program and run this stack on a "Wire EDM"...it uses a thin wire, electrostatic discharge to "Cut" very precisely that shape you're going for and will cut thru each stack layer no problem. May cost you a bit of run time/setup time money..but the quality/consistency of producing a home grown broadhead will be reflected in the final fit/finish and weight consistency which will transfer to improved / repeatable accuracy when actually used. The precise nature of the wire edm platform can even put vented cutouts within the blades for weight reduction with the artistic shape of your avatar or even your website logo....real custom with a high end look! All you have to do then is grind/hone/strop and get shooting!
Yep....we do custom broadheads for folks similar to this...but just don't go pokin around old saw mills snatchin up band saw blades and sneakin off with them in the dark!

Booner · 01-29-2010, 09:31 AM

hahahahahahahaha...Thank you Matt....just call me Booner the ninja.... No..A buddy of mine has a stack of pieces this size from a saw mill his family owned. It's not quite thick enough to make the 8/32 threads. I was going to have a jig made like Archer to place a larger field tip into and then custom build the ferrul. I'll draw it up and send the metal to you to cut.....Long as you don't mind taking stolen goods.

Arrowds · 01-29-2010, 10:18 AM

Sorry Booner...you'll have to use a local machine shop near you to get your toys cut out. I'm not taking on any custom work for at least six or more months in view of all I have on my plate right now between the broadhead business and my Consulting business. In fact...I'll be out of state on a consulting job beginning mid Feb and won't be home again until July. No turkey hunting for me this spring dang it!
So, I apologize I cannot support your home grown project. Just too busy.
Besides....I don't know if you'd enjoy my "custom prices" either! It's a pretty steep hourly rate for such engineering support. But the end result has done nothing but get compliments from those whom enjoy such custom, high quality results.
Anyway...good luck with the tinkering...What you're doing now is exatly how I got started so many years ago with prototyping....high end steak knives are actually what I started with...not saw blades.

sadclown · 01-29-2010, 01:27 PM

This should be good! Is this for a traditional set up or are you looking to launch it out of your Athens?

01-25-2010, 10:57 PM	#1 (permalink)
Booner Administrator Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Arkansas USA Posts: 952	Getting Started I just picked up a 2ft. x 8" piece of Stainless Steel commercial bandsaw blade. I think it will make a great set of homemade heads....anyone with the advice can bring it to the table....I'm ready.

01-26-2010, 10:38 AM	#2 (permalink)
DoeCommander 100gr Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: MO Posts: 120	you'd be better off with a chert rock . . . . __________________ New Archery Products and Athens staff "Put Your Purse Down and Go Bowhuntn"

01-26-2010, 12:47 PM	#3 (permalink)
HuntingtonsAssassin 125gr Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Huntington, IN Posts: 431	No advise, but I wish you luck! __________________ Eco3 Oudoors ProStaff/Productions, VaporTrail ProStaff, Heiney & Sons Outdoor Productions ProStaff, Bass and Bucks

01-26-2010, 12:50 PM	#4 (permalink)
Mule426 100gr Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: New Mexico Posts: 167	What ever you do, document and allow us to follow allong!!! I bet archer would be the one to guide you through this!!!! __________________ Athens Archery Field Staff/Smooth Stability Pro Staff/ Victory Archery Advisory Staff/Carbon Creations/ArcheryProstaff.com Accomplice 32" Camo on Black,Omega Rest Smooth Stability 8" Stabilizer Next G1 Camo

01-27-2010, 08:50 PM	#6 (permalink)
Archer Broadhead Admin Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: SE WI Posts: 200	He is just swamped. I am on the Board Of directors of the Wisconsin Bowhunters Association and my duties have me very busy lately. I too would love to see these heads built from bandsaw blades. __________________ Member: Wisconsin Bowhunters Association Member: Wisconsin Traditional Archers Member: Professional Bowhunters Society Member: MI Bowhunters Assoc. Member: American Broadhead Collectors Club Member: Sherwood Forest Bowmen Instinctors

01-26-2010, 03:28 PM	#5 (permalink)
Booner Administrator Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Arkansas USA Posts: 952	Chert Rock...hahaha. Good call. Archer went ghost on us....haven't seen him.

01-28-2010, 05:40 AM	#8 (permalink)
Archer Broadhead Admin Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: SE WI Posts: 200	Your right, it's sort of a "Give a man a fish vs teach a man to fish. Necessity is the mother of inventions but success has many fathers.................. I think I am out of clever sayings.................... Oh wait, one more. Duct tape is like the force. It has a dark side and a light side and it holds the universe together. Booner, post a pic of that piece of metal, I have never heard of such a big bandsaw blade. __________________ Member: Wisconsin Bowhunters Association Member: Wisconsin Traditional Archers Member: Professional Bowhunters Society Member: MI Bowhunters Assoc. Member: American Broadhead Collectors Club Member: Sherwood Forest Bowmen Instinctors

01-28-2010, 09:57 PM	#11 (permalink)
BuckFeverLodge Broadhead Admin Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: SW Michigan Posts: 1,398	Booner - first of all, NICE NEW AVATAR!!! Now that's flashy. I like it. Second, your wife will kill you if she finds out you had that rusty hunk of metal on her granite countertop. I won't tell, I promise...... Third, where did you get such a blade? That thing is mean looking. __________________ ATHENS FACTORY STAFF SHOOTER, Red Feather Archery Field Staff, Eco3 Outdoors Pro Staff, U-slide Bow Holder Pro Staff, LTL Acorn Outdoors Pro Staff "Anybody can kill one with a gun" Steve Casselman "It's going to be a very bad year for a lot of unsuspecting critters!" Matt Futtere - Arrowdynamic Solutions Last edited by BuckFeverLodge; 01-28-2010 at 09:58 PM. Reason: Added third point/question

01-29-2010, 08:57 AM	#12 (permalink)
Arrowds Broadhead Maker Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 173	I'd assume you'll be making a more traditional two blade/cut to the tip style head from this? If so...I'd recommend simply drawing up with detailed dimensions exactly what it is you'd like...Depending on the thickness of the blade...and that looks easiliy thick enough....I'd be you could even run out the standard .200" insert alignment barrel which then goes into the 8/32 threaded portion of the broadhead. You may have some "Flats" on each side...but enough metal to actually run it thru a die to put the 8/32 threads on it. This should provide enough mechanical advantage to stay in the ferrul/not pull out. Anyway, take your drawing to a local machine shop. Have them cut the massive band saw blade you stole...I mean found... into lengths/widths and stack them together. Have them then program and run this stack on a "Wire EDM"...it uses a thin wire, electrostatic discharge to "Cut" very precisely that shape you're going for and will cut thru each stack layer no problem. May cost you a bit of run time/setup time money..but the quality/consistency of producing a home grown broadhead will be reflected in the final fit/finish and weight consistency which will transfer to improved / repeatable accuracy when actually used. The precise nature of the wire edm platform can even put vented cutouts within the blades for weight reduction with the artistic shape of your avatar or even your website logo....real custom with a high end look! All you have to do then is grind/hone/strop and get shooting! Yep....we do custom broadheads for folks similar to this...but just don't go pokin around old saw mills snatchin up band saw blades and sneakin off with them in the dark!

01-29-2010, 09:31 AM	#13 (permalink)
Booner Administrator Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Arkansas USA Posts: 952	hahahahahahahaha...Thank you Matt....just call me Booner the ninja.... No..A buddy of mine has a stack of pieces this size from a saw mill his family owned. It's not quite thick enough to make the 8/32 threads. I was going to have a jig made like Archer to place a larger field tip into and then custom build the ferrul. I'll draw it up and send the metal to you to cut.....Long as you don't mind taking stolen goods.

01-29-2010, 10:18 AM	#14 (permalink)
Arrowds Broadhead Maker Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 173	Sorry Booner...you'll have to use a local machine shop near you to get your toys cut out. I'm not taking on any custom work for at least six or more months in view of all I have on my plate right now between the broadhead business and my Consulting business. In fact...I'll be out of state on a consulting job beginning mid Feb and won't be home again until July. No turkey hunting for me this spring dang it! So, I apologize I cannot support your home grown project. Just too busy. Besides....I don't know if you'd enjoy my "custom prices" either! It's a pretty steep hourly rate for such engineering support. But the end result has done nothing but get compliments from those whom enjoy such custom, high quality results. Anyway...good luck with the tinkering...What you're doing now is exatly how I got started so many years ago with prototyping....high end steak knives are actually what I started with...not saw blades.

01-29-2010, 01:27 PM	#15 (permalink)
sadclown 75gr Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Island Lake, IL Posts: 21	This should be good! Is this for a traditional set up or are you looking to launch it out of your Athens?

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