cartman308

I saw a short clip on th Edge head. I saw that the blades were serated. It also appeared that they had a "helix" to them.

Could y'all give us some more info on the Edge line?

Thanks guys!

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Indeed, the Thunderhead EDGE will have dual-action serrated blades. What that means in laymen's terms is that about a 1/4" of the blade both before and after the serrations will be "clean edge". The clean edge portion in front of the serrations allows for a "clean initial cut", with the serrations following to help "saw" through any bone the head may come into contact with. The last 1/4" or so of the blade again provides a clean edge/clean cut.

The overall design is to provide an excellent "cut"—with the added benefit of the serrations when coming into contact with bone.

The overall design was basically combining the standard Thunderhead with the offset blade feature from the Nightmare head. The offset blades increase the cutting performance and toughness of the head overall.

Another advantage is that the EDGE doesn't require the UBAR's from the traditional Thunderheads.

All in all, this was my own personal "go to head" for the past season—and it performed just as I hoped and expected. It'll be first out of my quiver again for 2010!

Here's a photo for anyone who hasn't seen the head:

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WABOWMAN

So is the feral made of aluminum like the original Thunderhead? What is the blade thickness?

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The ferrule is made of 7075 aircraft aluminum—and shares the same basic design as the standard Thunderhead—with the exception of the offsets for the blades.

Blades are .030" thick.

cartman308

Thanks for the explination and image. Head sounds very interesting. With all the new stuff out I don't know what to try first!!

You have any success pics??

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SPIKER

Does this mean that the Nightmare is no more?

The Nightmare was my go to head this past season with 4 fast kills. This head looks really mean, but what kind of cost will the replacement blades have?

Also, I don't have a lot of experience with serrated blades, other than Buzzcuts. So my last question is does the serration cause any flight disturbance in a three blade at 330fps + ?

220@NAP

The Nightmare is going away—but due to the T-head EDGE and the Nightmare having the same ferrule geometry—you can use the EDGE blades in the existing Nightmare ferrules.

So if you already have Nightmare heads, you have the option of just buying the T-head EDGE replacement blades—and simply reusing the Nightmare ferrules. It won't "quite be" the Thunderhead EDGE—but it'll still be bombproof as far as the toughness the Nightmare is known for.

With that said, if you were happy with the performance from the Nightmare heads—you will certainly get along just fine with the Thunderhead EDGE!

We don't have any testing data on the T-head EDGE at the 330+fps speeds—but I notified our tech guys to "get it done"—so I'll post the results once they have a chance to test it at speeds beyond 330fps.

Worth noting here, we have tested most of our existing heads recently out of crossbows at over 350+fps—and haven't seen any problems with flight/accuracy in those tests—so I don't personally expect to see any problems with the EDGE versions either.

Still, I'll post the results once our tech guys actually get to run the test.

Booner

Thank you Jason....Folks, that is a company taking care of business...looking forward to the results.

SPIKER

Let me say that I love Nap broadheads. The Nightmare is the head that I've been waiting for for a long time, and I'm sad that you guys have decided to shelve it. Luckily, I have 5 new packs, and will be scooping up any left overs on ebay.

What a great head. Accurate as any, including two blades. Sharp as a razor out of the package, and only needs a touch up after a kill. No need for replacement blades 90% of the time.

I am aware that there are a lot of Broadheads out there that will put a whitetail down quick....but, it's a superstitious thing at this point. I shoot a deer, it drops within sight. I'm on a roll, and I don't want it to end.

I'm just curious. I have to wonder what makes a BH company discontinue a head. Is it bottom line sales? I'm just an avid bowhunter that wonders about these things. Thanks for taking the time to reply, and thanks also for the high speed testing.

220@NAP

Just wanted to make a "correction". The Thunderhead EDGE as well as the replacement blades for it are actually at a lower MAP price than the Nightmare (and it's replacement blades).

Probably a good thing to clarify that ...

220@NAP

This is a valid question—and can be confusing—both for the consumer, as well as a manufacturer.

Naturally, any product has to have "sales" numbers strong enough to justify it as a viable product. But, it's some of the "details" behind sales numbers that come into play in the decision as a whole.

Specifically on NAP's end—it came down to how best to make our whole "operations" more efficient. When considering the whole, for a product to prove viable, it has to bring a profit. It has to sell.

What goes into that is "demand" on the consumer level. With so many different models available to the consumer these days—there's obviously a lot of competition for the attention (and thereby "demand") at the consumer level. That typically means that promotions, advertising/marketing are paramount to the success of pretty much any product. That requires money—and in today's market—it requires a good bit of it for advertising and marketing to "get your product out there" in front of the consumer.

Long story short, besides all the other brands and models available—NAP had at least 18 different models/styles of broadheads within our inventory alone. So, as you can imagine, the cost to adequately promote/advertise that many models would prove staggering. Those costs have to be drawn from somewhere ...

In the end, rather than cut jobs, cut corners, etc.—NAP decided to review our inventory—and then par it down to what we felt were our strongest models.

With regard to the Nightmare in particular—we had decided to roll the best features of the Nightmare into the new Thunderhead EDGE. So, it's not so much that the Nightmare "lost"—but rather that we took it's "best features" and rolled them into a new offering that we felt would be superior to the Nightmare itself.

Part of that decision came from the strength of the Thunderhead brand itself. The Thunderhead is a long established brand. The reason the Thunderhead has had such a long run is because it's been proven time and again to "get the job done". It's reliable. With that in mind, we felt there were ways to improve upon the original—and part of that turned out to be rolling newer features (such as the Nightmare's) into the newest Thunderhead offering.

So, in the end, the "best parts" of the Nightmare still "live on"—while we were able to sort of "trim the fat" to make our operations more efficient overall.

Hope that makes sense.

chuck7413

When can I purchase some Edge broadheads? I am dying to test them out.

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They are shipping now. As for when and where they'll actually show up on the shelves—that depends on when/if a given shop/dealer has placed an order for them—as well as what delivery date they requested. We've had quite a few orders for "immediate delivery"—so they should start hitting given shops within the coming weeks.

As for the big box stores, it's harder to say. Sometimes they don't get around to stocking the newest items til closer to late-Spring/early-Summer.

Just have to shop around a bit—but they should be showing up here very soon!

SPIKER

Thanks for the reply.

deathfromabove

I def want to get some too they look deadly

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