Phoenix Torture Test Predictions -

05_sprcrw · 10-19-2010, 02:44 PM

Well I am going out to the range, to see how a phoenix will fair against 2 whitetail shoulder blades stacked together. And then the coupe de graw a whitetail leg bone shot from 20 yards.

Bow setup for the test:
2010 New Breed Genetix
28.75" draw
78lbs

String Weight:
Predators veiw peep
6 total speed nocks

Arrow setup for a test:

100 Grain RFA Phoenix
28" carbon to carbon Easton Axis Nano st
75 Grain brass insert
3 right wing rayzr feathers 3° offset
Arrow wrap
Firenock
15% FOC

Total arrow weight: 525 grains
Arrow Speed: 279 fps

Any predictions as to what will happen?

I am guessing that I will get through both shoulder blades and probably have the arrow 8-10" into the hyper420 target. And on the leg bone I am hoping to hit it lol. I will shoot until I hit the leg bone, but I am guessing it should make it through and be in the target 6-8".

If it survives those I may possibly take aim at the ball joint to really see how strong this head is.

Standing Bear · 10-19-2010, 03:28 PM

My prediction is the Phoenix will blow right through both and do a really big hole in the two of them. The head will be untouched !!!

My prediction

Briarsdad · 10-19-2010, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Standing Bear

My prediction is the Phoenix will blow right through both and do a really big hole in the two of them. The head will be untouched !!!

My prediction

I have to agree, I don't think any bone will stop the Phoenix coming out of that setup.

05_sprcrw · 10-19-2010, 06:32 PM

I have the results but I am not going to post them until tomorrow morning to let some more predictions come in.

Okie101 · 10-19-2010, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 05_sprcrw

I have the results but I am not going to post them until tomorrow morning to let some more predictions come in.

My prediction....You lost your arrow after the shot....

Keep the avatar Daniel...I LIKE IT...

BuckFeverLodge · 10-19-2010, 08:09 PM

Prediction: The head blew up, shattering into a thousand pieces.

hahahahaha.............yeah right, not with the Phoenix!

I hope you got this on video, because I want to see some bone shatter and Phoenix barely dulled. Can't wait for your results.

Standing Bear · 10-19-2010, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Okie101

My prediction....You lost your arrow after the shot....

Keep the avatar Daniel...I LIKE IT...

Alright Okie101, consider it done, I really like it too !!!! Whenever I loo at it, I always think I would be saying, "Hey, who took my fish !!!", lol lol

Red Feather Archery · 10-19-2010, 08:32 PM

Looking forward to the results. Did a similar test with the leg and shoulder bones of my muley buck. Interested to see how close the results match up.

05_sprcrw · 10-20-2010, 05:34 AM

Ok I am working on the vidoes now but I was very happy with the results unfortunately I did have a blade crack at the back of the vent.

But the good news is they are strong I shot it again at the bone and it broke through the bone again and did nothing else. At which point I retired the head becuase it is not good to push my luck with shooting broken heads.

05_sprcrw · 10-20-2010, 06:36 AM

BigBuck-A-Roo · 10-20-2010, 06:50 AM

Great vid but i've already seen enough when I saw your kill picks and blood trails with this head and I will be getting me some

LOL And hopefully this don't offend you in any way but you look a bit like Jimmy Johnson!

05_sprcrw · 10-20-2010, 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigBuck-A-Roo

Great vid but i've already seen enough when I saw your kill picks and blood trails with this head and I will be getting me some

LOL And hopefully this don't offend you in any way but you look a bit like Jimmy Johnson!

lol I can honestly say your the first person to tell me that but no offense, its better then being told I look like rosie o donnel

And they are a great head I have no doubt when I make the switch to the 125s and do this test that not a single thing will happen to them.

Red Feather Archery · 10-20-2010, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 05_sprcrw

Ok I am working on the vidoes now but I was very happy with the results unfortunately I did have a blade crack at the back of the vent.

But the good news is they are strong I shot it again at the bone and it broke through the bone again and did nothing else. At which point I retired the head becuase it is not good to push my luck with shooting broken heads.

Great video, that crack is the issue that caused us to recall the most recent batch of heads. Some processes (heat treat, teflon coating, etc.) are outsourced and that means we don't have total control. Heat treating appears to be the issue. We recalled via e-mail the heads from the batch that were faulty. THANKS TO GREAT CUSTOMERS WE CAUGHT THIS BEFORE GETTING TOO MANY OUT THE DOOR!

Were those heads still capable to taking game - yes, some customers have done just that.

Were they up to our standards - not even close. When we get the issue resolved without a doubt we'll have the 100 grains back up for sale.

05_sprcrw · 10-20-2010, 08:35 AM

That is good news Stan.

Briarsdad · 10-20-2010, 06:11 PM

Excellent test! I knew the Phoenix would break bone with no problem.

10-19-2010, 02:44 PM	#1 (permalink)
05_sprcrw Broadhead Tester Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lincoln, NE Posts: 1,445	Phoenix Torture Test Predictions Well I am going out to the range, to see how a phoenix will fair against 2 whitetail shoulder blades stacked together. And then the coupe de graw a whitetail leg bone shot from 20 yards. Bow setup for the test: 2010 New Breed Genetix 28.75" draw 78lbs String Weight: Predators veiw peep 6 total speed nocks Arrow setup for a test: 100 Grain RFA Phoenix 28" carbon to carbon Easton Axis Nano st 75 Grain brass insert 3 right wing rayzr feathers 3° offset Arrow wrap Firenock 15% FOC Total arrow weight: 525 grains Arrow Speed: 279 fps Any predictions as to what will happen? I am guessing that I will get through both shoulder blades and probably have the arrow 8-10" into the hyper420 target. And on the leg bone I am hoping to hit it lol. I will shoot until I hit the leg bone, but I am guessing it should make it through and be in the target 6-8". If it survives those I may possibly take aim at the ball joint to really see how strong this head is. __________________ New Breed Archery Samurai Genetix 82lbs 29" 550 Grains 16% F.O.C. 282 fps, RFA Phoenix and Razorhawk Broadheads

10-19-2010, 03:28 PM	#2 (permalink)
Standing Bear Moderator Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Northwest Territories, Canada Posts: 845	My prediction is the Phoenix will blow right through both and do a really big hole in the two of them. The head will be untouched !!! My prediction __________________ Authorized Athens Archery Dealer, Athens Factory Staff Shooter Swhacker Pro Staff

10-19-2010, 06:32 PM	#4 (permalink)
05_sprcrw Broadhead Tester Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lincoln, NE Posts: 1,445	I have the results but I am not going to post them until tomorrow morning to let some more predictions come in. __________________ New Breed Archery Samurai Genetix 82lbs 29" 550 Grains 16% F.O.C. 282 fps, RFA Phoenix and Razorhawk Broadheads

10-19-2010, 08:09 PM	#6 (permalink)
BuckFeverLodge Broadhead Admin Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: SW Michigan Posts: 1,402	Prediction: The head blew up, shattering into a thousand pieces. hahahahaha.............yeah right, not with the Phoenix! I hope you got this on video, because I want to see some bone shatter and Phoenix barely dulled. Can't wait for your results. __________________ ATHENS FACTORY STAFF SHOOTER, Red Feather Archery Field Staff, Eco3 Outdoors Pro Staff, U-slide Bow Holder Pro Staff, LTL Acorn Outdoors Pro Staff "Anybody can kill one with a gun" Steve Casselman "It's going to be a very bad year for a lot of unsuspecting critters!" Matt Futtere - Arrowdynamic Solutions

10-20-2010, 05:34 AM	#9 (permalink)
05_sprcrw Broadhead Tester Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lincoln, NE Posts: 1,445	Ok I am working on the vidoes now but I was very happy with the results unfortunately I did have a blade crack at the back of the vent. But the good news is they are strong I shot it again at the bone and it broke through the bone again and did nothing else. At which point I retired the head becuase it is not good to push my luck with shooting broken heads. __________________ New Breed Archery Samurai Genetix 82lbs 29" 550 Grains 16% F.O.C. 282 fps, RFA Phoenix and Razorhawk Broadheads

10-19-2010, 08:32 PM	#8 (permalink)
Red Feather Archery Broadhead Maker Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 757	Looking forward to the results. Did a similar test with the leg and shoulder bones of my muley buck. Interested to see how close the results match up.

10-20-2010, 06:36 AM	#10 (permalink)
05_sprcrw Broadhead Tester Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lincoln, NE Posts: 1,445	__________________ New Breed Archery Samurai Genetix 82lbs 29" 550 Grains 16% F.O.C. 282 fps, RFA Phoenix and Razorhawk Broadheads

10-20-2010, 06:50 AM	#11 (permalink)
BigBuck-A-Roo 100gr Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Caledonia,NY Posts: 257	Great vid but i've already seen enough when I saw your kill picks and blood trails with this head and I will be getting me some LOL And hopefully this don't offend you in any way but you look a bit like Jimmy Johnson! __________________ PSE BOW MADNESS 32 at 66.5 lbs 28 inch draw and Nap Hellrazors

10-20-2010, 08:35 AM	#14 (permalink)
05_sprcrw Broadhead Tester Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lincoln, NE Posts: 1,445	That is good news Stan. __________________ New Breed Archery Samurai Genetix 82lbs 29" 550 Grains 16% F.O.C. 282 fps, RFA Phoenix and Razorhawk Broadheads

10-20-2010, 06:11 PM	#15 (permalink)
Briarsdad Broadhead Tester Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Indiana Posts: 389	Excellent test! I knew the Phoenix would break bone with no problem. __________________ Red Feather Archery Black Widow PLX Osage,Diamondback Archery Venom Longbow

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