The old versus the new heads -

Standing Bear · 06-24-2010, 08:26 AM

Both Sylvie and I were talking about the broadheads I was using when I started bowhunting in the mid 80's. In my small Ontario, Canada village, three heads were mostly used, the Zwickey Delta's, the Bear Razorheads with bleeders and the Rotharr Snuffers. These were considered amongst the most reliable heads at that time although we did hear about a new head that twisted in animals, the three blade Kolpin broadhead.

Having back then the ability in Ontario to bowhunt black bear in the spring, I remember shooting a number of black's with both the snuffers and bear razor heads. I did shoot the Zwickey however I only shot that head with my longbow. The other two heads were shot with my recurve.

I really think there is nothing wrong with the old heads that our fathers shot only that today, we have a widder selection of specific use broadhead that fit our hunting needs re: North America vs African hunting but even then, is the statement I just said valid for this example?

I would be interested to hear your opinions on this old versus new

05_sprcrw · 06-24-2010, 09:32 AM

I think you nailed it on the head, those heads obviously work and have killed numerous animals, (I have not shot any of them personally but they work) just like all the heads on the market will kill animals as well.

But as you said there are many more options and most are geared torwards a specific animal or even a group of people. Some will "kill faster" some will leave "massive blood trails" it just depends on what the archer is looking for. Do I think the bh's of today are any better then the ones of yesterday, not nessecarily but I do believe the materials and the production process has become better.

All in all I would shoot an old design just as soon as I would a new design, all work as intended.

That is just what I think about it. Good thread idea.

varmint101 · 06-24-2010, 01:32 PM

There's nothing wrong with the heads that have been around a long time. I think a lot of times the introduction of a new head isn't really a big innovation it's more of a tweak to try and get bowhunters to buy more new heads making them think the other one won't work as well.

Shadowstalker · 06-25-2010, 12:04 PM

Though not on such a large scale there were, like today some good heads produced and a lot of gimmick heads. Lest we forget the Serpentine. It seams to me that we remember the ones we do because they were quality and they lasted longer and proved themselves. 20 years from now what heads will we be looking back on?

05_sprcrw · 06-25-2010, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadowstalker

Though not on such a large scale there were, like today some good heads produced and a lot of gimmick heads. Lest we forget the Serpentine. It seams to me that we remember the ones we do because they were quality and they lasted longer and proved themselves. 20 years from now what heads will we be looking back on?

Very true!

varmint101 · 06-25-2010, 01:54 PM

I think heads like the original slick trick standard and magnum and g5 striker will be around for a long long time.

MT_Bowhunter · 08-03-2010, 09:56 AM

Standing Bear

I am of the old school, and I like two blade broadheads. I haven't tried the Zwickey Delta yet, but do have the Eskimo and love the way it cuts and penetrates.

I can't wait to try the Grizzlie Broadheads though, as they are heavier.

I also have 6 original Bear Razorheads with bleeders that have never been shot attached to original Bear Faberglass arrows, that came in a box with 6 other originals that have the field points of the same weight.

I had thought about hunting with these, as a tribute to Pappa Bear himself.

06-24-2010, 08:26 AM	#1 (permalink)
Standing Bear Moderator Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Northwest Territories, Canada Posts: 845	The old versus the new heads Both Sylvie and I were talking about the broadheads I was using when I started bowhunting in the mid 80's. In my small Ontario, Canada village, three heads were mostly used, the Zwickey Delta's, the Bear Razorheads with bleeders and the Rotharr Snuffers. These were considered amongst the most reliable heads at that time although we did hear about a new head that twisted in animals, the three blade Kolpin broadhead. Having back then the ability in Ontario to bowhunt black bear in the spring, I remember shooting a number of black's with both the snuffers and bear razor heads. I did shoot the Zwickey however I only shot that head with my longbow. The other two heads were shot with my recurve. I really think there is nothing wrong with the old heads that our fathers shot only that today, we have a widder selection of specific use broadhead that fit our hunting needs re: North America vs African hunting but even then, is the statement I just said valid for this example? I would be interested to hear your opinions on this old versus new

06-24-2010, 09:32 AM	#2 (permalink)
05_sprcrw Broadhead Tester Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lincoln, NE Posts: 1,395	I think you nailed it on the head, those heads obviously work and have killed numerous animals, (I have not shot any of them personally but they work) just like all the heads on the market will kill animals as well. But as you said there are many more options and most are geared torwards a specific animal or even a group of people. Some will "kill faster" some will leave "massive blood trails" it just depends on what the archer is looking for. Do I think the bh's of today are any better then the ones of yesterday, not nessecarily but I do believe the materials and the production process has become better. All in all I would shoot an old design just as soon as I would a new design, all work as intended. That is just what I think about it. Good thread idea. __________________ New Breed Archery Samurai Genetix 82lbs 29" 550 Grains 16% F.O.C. 282 fps, RFA Phoenix and Razorhawk Broadheads

06-25-2010, 12:04 PM	#4 (permalink)
Shadowstalker 85gr Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Montana Posts: 82	Though not on such a large scale there were, like today some good heads produced and a lot of gimmick heads. Lest we forget the Serpentine. It seams to me that we remember the ones we do because they were quality and they lasted longer and proved themselves. 20 years from now what heads will we be looking back on? __________________ Sticks of choice. Centaur longbows and Cowiche longbows. Current broadheads, Centaur BGH and Ribtek 125s.

08-03-2010, 09:56 AM	#7 (permalink)
MT_Bowhunter 100gr Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Kalispell, MT Posts: 127	Standing Bear I am of the old school, and I like two blade broadheads. I haven't tried the Zwickey Delta yet, but do have the Eskimo and love the way it cuts and penetrates. I can't wait to try the Grizzlie Broadheads though, as they are heavier. I also have 6 original Bear Razorheads with bleeders that have never been shot attached to original Bear Faberglass arrows, that came in a box with 6 other originals that have the field points of the same weight. I had thought about hunting with these, as a tribute to Pappa Bear himself. __________________ "I don't bowhunt for a living... But I live to bowhunt the traditional way"

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06-24-2010, 01:32 PM	#3 (permalink)
varmint101 130gr Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Freetown, IN Posts: 456	There's nothing wrong with the heads that have been around a long time. I think a lot of times the introduction of a new head isn't really a big innovation it's more of a tweak to try and get bowhunters to buy more new heads making them think the other one won't work as well.

06-25-2010, 01:54 PM	#6 (permalink)
varmint101 130gr Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Freetown, IN Posts: 456	I think heads like the original slick trick standard and magnum and g5 striker will be around for a long long time.